tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post8165607012489956868..comments2023-05-13T06:01:18.748-07:00Comments on Air: Ryu vs RoseAirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01880233291550480362noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-7399000904332823422011-11-02T11:22:37.680-07:002011-11-02T11:22:37.680-07:00I do not agree with a few things found here and I ...I do not agree with a few things found here and I am a Rose player. A few of the tips given here will simply fail against Rose. And a few other tips can work well against her. I dont believe Air has yet to figure the Rose match up.Legacy Virushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00236467001419024678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-3197347563573911222011-04-07T02:15:19.427-07:002011-04-07T02:15:19.427-07:00@wing zero thx for some of the info! I learned som...@wing zero thx for some of the info! I learned some new stuff and will add some in my guide!Airhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01880233291550480362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-61720626423406695132011-04-07T01:51:51.075-07:002011-04-07T01:51:51.075-07:00I think it's really important to keep one stoc...I think it's really important to keep one stock of EX on Ryu. It's possible to react to fireballs if the Rose has good reaction time; however, the EX one is both too fast and non-reflectable.<br /><br />Jumping in on Rose isn't as bad as it seems. Besides cr.MP, Rose's pokes actually recover quite slowly. Although Rose has a solid anti-air in cr.HP, it lacks horizontal range and trades lots with j.HK. Coupled with the fact that Soul Throw (non-ex) is completely ass and gets beat out a good amount of the time, it actually can pay off to jump more often.<br /><br />About U2 being the gayest Ultra in the game. Yea, I guess. But she definitely needed it since she is free on wakeup (Dhalsim level). Look at her in AE now. She has no way to deal with dive kick characters once she gets knocked down. She's literally a bottom 5 character in the game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-78276709198611571512011-04-05T23:55:38.003-07:002011-04-05T23:55:38.003-07:00If you sweep Rose and go for the safe jump, She ca...If you sweep Rose and go for the safe jump, She can't U2 and hit you in the air. She will waste one orb always (you will block one orb safely)wing_zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873226055403541663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-24637222161527131272011-04-05T23:51:15.286-07:002011-04-05T23:51:15.286-07:00another thing that helps is to get her used to pla...another thing that helps is to get her used to playing footsies, then jump in at random intervals (preferably from cr.MK range/outside her cr.MP ranage). It's hard for her to react to this: if she cr.HP, you will often get a trade. if she blocks, you get a free mixup.<br /><br />Of course, don't spam jumping in, but when you're mixing up LP/EX/FP fireballs at mid range, properly spacing with cr.MK, AND keeping her slide in check, jumping in during footsies puts another layer of tremendous pressure on Rose. It is REALLY hard for her to deal with this.wing_zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873226055403541663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-3081768832494650162011-04-05T23:43:32.858-07:002011-04-05T23:43:32.858-07:00ex tatsu/throw mixups are extremely effective agai...ex tatsu/throw mixups are extremely effective against Rose, she has to no real way to deal with this outside of U2.<br /><br />also, LP fireball will hit her out of her slide at least 80% of the time from far-mid to mid range; it takes very strict timing for Rose to slide under it successfully. Mix in some EX fireballs to counter the focus attempts, and you will have one frustrated Rose :) <br /><br />Buffer LP/FP fireball motion while playing footsies, as soon as she whiffs a move, unleash and push her back. this puts a lot of pressure on herwing_zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873226055403541663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-17898566765506940972011-04-05T19:50:08.487-07:002011-04-05T19:50:08.487-07:00I've played a lot of matchup with rose players...I've played a lot of matchup with rose players (not experts, and not scrubs), and some times, empty jump landing light SRK at spacing of last frames of rose's slide for punish it is pretty useful. Incase of whiff (when rose don't do the slide), If you done it correctly, a lot of roses will not punish it because you have at time do landing and block or make Rose expect a new shoryuken as frametrap.. It's only a idea, not for do it every time. (sorry for my unskilled english)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842910000581086873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-40244724826102334762011-04-05T19:49:11.432-07:002011-04-05T19:49:11.432-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842910000581086873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-26206128024317970602011-04-05T19:45:39.381-07:002011-04-05T19:45:39.381-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842910000581086873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-65423560201950898972011-04-05T19:37:26.386-07:002011-04-05T19:37:26.386-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842910000581086873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-37446362488017343982011-04-04T09:21:48.075-07:002011-04-04T09:21:48.075-07:00in my opinion if ryu loose fireball war like vs ro...in my opinion if ryu loose fireball war like vs rose then it's f.n hard matchup.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14078445628767728193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-6147991895887274872011-04-02T04:27:41.609-07:002011-04-02T04:27:41.609-07:00@bcotton i know about that, but good rose players,...@bcotton i know about that, but good rose players, would just c.mp and then wait, just like how ryu players use cr.mk n wait. Kinda risky, n i mean of corz u can do it to out play them...but better off blocking it since it doesn't deal much chip dmg. Thx for the info tho :DAirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01880233291550480362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-40077810826998973052011-04-01T17:16:07.704-07:002011-04-01T17:16:07.704-07:00Hey, Air another useful bit, Rose's C MP> S...Hey, Air another useful bit, Rose's C MP> Spiral isnt a solid blockstring.<br /><br /><br />You can srk after the c mpUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00275099590191736470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-11039234013879158062011-04-01T03:01:54.899-07:002011-04-01T03:01:54.899-07:00Well yeah but after the beating, Daigo went to tra...Well yeah but after the beating, Daigo went to training mode for 2 hours to figure out Rose's attacks and eventually bodied Louffy in Losers Bracket and also 2vs2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660440275208462634.post-7789169820201070322011-03-31T05:20:31.912-07:002011-03-31T05:20:31.912-07:00Extremely hard to beat a Rose who knows Ryu matchu...Extremely hard to beat a Rose who knows Ryu matchup. <br />I've seen Daigo lose badly to Louffy's Rose in vanilla (when Ryu was OP and Rose UP)Vikranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333767390958214795noreply@blogger.com